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Comments on: Separated From The Fandom http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/ Unsurprisingly Still Single Mon, 07 Nov 2016 03:46:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Baughn http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-123404 Baughn Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:55:37 +0000 http://check.animeblogger.net/?p=971#comment-123404 Straightforward? <em>Shaft???</em> You poor human... Straightforward?

Shaft???

You poor human…

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By: TheBigN http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-119567 TheBigN Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:25:41 +0000 http://check.animeblogger.net/?p=971#comment-119567 <blockquote>It's the kind of unthinking dismissal of a certain subgroup as Inferior, to become the Designated Target.</blockquote> This so hard. When people complain about moe shows, it comes off less as legitimate, and more as piling on for the sake of piling on to rail about some random injustice since they can't rail on what they worry about. And on diverting blame to some "other" in order to justify their standing, and afraid of being judged about what they like for fear of not having it anymore ("I'm not like them. <I>They're</I> the ones who are ruining anime."). So when they pull their punches, it falls flat to me, and just makes me want to punch back at them harder.

It's the kind of unthinking dismissal of a certain subgroup as Inferior, to become the Designated Target.

This so hard. When people complain about moe shows, it comes off less as legitimate, and more as piling on for the sake of piling on to rail about some random injustice since they can't rail on what they worry about. And on diverting blame to some "other" in order to justify their standing, and afraid of being judged about what they like for fear of not having it anymore ("I'm not like them. They're the ones who are ruining anime."). So when they pull their punches, it falls flat to me, and just makes me want to punch back at them harder.

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By: mkmcartor http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-119390 mkmcartor Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:48:09 +0000 http://check.animeblogger.net/?p=971#comment-119390 The negativity in anime circles is why I stopped engaging at all. My time spent at ANN dropped from hours every day to minutes, to skim the headlines and read Anime News Nina. You and a couple other positive-attitude bloggers are all I follow now. So... thanks! ^_^ The negativity in anime circles is why I stopped engaging at all. My time spent at ANN dropped from hours every day to minutes, to skim the headlines and read Anime News Nina. You and a couple other positive-attitude bloggers are all I follow now. So… thanks! ^_^

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By: DKellis http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-118495 DKellis Sun, 05 Dec 2010 05:59:15 +0000 http://check.animeblogger.net/?p=971#comment-118495 I'm not expecting everything to be completely by the numbers from SHAFT, but I'd rather not it degenerate into utter parody and meta-references. SHAFT can certainly do both story (<i>Moon Phase</i> minus the last episode) and cute (<i>Hidamari Sketch</i>), and since Ume Aoki is involved as well, I'm hoping for something <i>sane</i>. The problem I face isn't simply having to avoid other blogs, since the insults happen offhand in forum posts where I would otherwise have participated in the Anime Discussion. It's the kind of unthinking dismissal of a certain subgroup as Inferior, to become the Designated Target. So I have to avoid those discussions, which prevents me from talking about anime <i>at all</i> on that forum, since most forums have designated areas for a given topic, and starting another enclave is frowned upon. I'm not expecting everything to be completely by the numbers from SHAFT, but I'd rather not it degenerate into utter parody and meta-references. SHAFT can certainly do both story (Moon Phase minus the last episode) and cute (Hidamari Sketch), and since Ume Aoki is involved as well, I'm hoping for something sane.

The problem I face isn't simply having to avoid other blogs, since the insults happen offhand in forum posts where I would otherwise have participated in the Anime Discussion. It's the kind of unthinking dismissal of a certain subgroup as Inferior, to become the Designated Target.

So I have to avoid those discussions, which prevents me from talking about anime at all on that forum, since most forums have designated areas for a given topic, and starting another enclave is frowned upon.

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By: Leo http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-118463 Leo Sun, 05 Dec 2010 04:04:56 +0000 http://check.animeblogger.net/?p=971#comment-118463 A straightforward Mahou Shoujo, from Shaft?? You'd better put your hopes down. Unless things like Moetan can be put under this category as well. About the moe hate, I think it's inevitable to come across people who are going to criticize your tastes, be it moe anime, mecha anime, Russian literature, lemonades, or you-name-what. Besides, the haters usually are the most vocal, so I just try to put up with it. A straightforward Mahou Shoujo, from Shaft?? You'd better put your hopes down. Unless things like Moetan can be put under this category as well.

About the moe hate, I think it's inevitable to come across people who are going to criticize your tastes, be it moe anime, mecha anime, Russian literature, lemonades, or you-name-what. Besides, the haters usually are the most vocal, so I just try to put up with it.

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By: Yumeka http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-118339 Yumeka Sat, 04 Dec 2010 20:48:45 +0000 http://check.animeblogger.net/?p=971#comment-118339 Coincidentally, I just recently wrote two posts on my blog dealing with this exact issue - one post defending moe, and another post defending the concept of "generic" anime. I urge you to take a look if you're interested. I hope it makes you feel better that I too am tired of those who put on the appearances of being a "fan" when all they do is nitpick and think nothing of crushing other people's fandoms. Coincidentally, I just recently wrote two posts on my blog dealing with this exact issue – one post defending moe, and another post defending the concept of "generic" anime. I urge you to take a look if you're interested. I hope it makes you feel better that I too am tired of those who put on the appearances of being a "fan" when all they do is nitpick and think nothing of crushing other people's fandoms.

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By: Panther http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-118295 Panther Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:35:30 +0000 http://check.animeblogger.net/?p=971#comment-118295 Or you can be like me - just read the ones you really feel like following, comment on them if you feel like it and if you think they will actually give constructive replies back. That said I dislike moe, but not to the point of hating it. The anime industry just serves what sells, and moe is just what sells in Japan. Or you can be like me – just read the ones you really feel like following, comment on them if you feel like it and if you think they will actually give constructive replies back.

That said I dislike moe, but not to the point of hating it. The anime industry just serves what sells, and moe is just what sells in Japan.

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By: Niku http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-118284 Niku Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:04:27 +0000 http://check.animeblogger.net/?p=971#comment-118284 I think, like anything else, the loudest and most outspoken ones get the attention, and that makes it seem as if there is a lot more dissatisfaction when the reality is just a handful of extra loud people are stirring things up. I personally try to go out of my way to remain objective. I think, like anything else, the loudest and most outspoken ones get the attention, and that makes it seem as if there is a lot more dissatisfaction when the reality is just a handful of extra loud people are stirring things up. I personally try to go out of my way to remain objective.

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By: GreyDuck http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-118267 GreyDuck Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:15:47 +0000 http://check.animeblogger.net/?p=971#comment-118267 Yeah... I think I'm going to be culling a lot of anime bloggers from my feed reader, because it seems like all some of them can do is bitch and moan about <em>every single show</em> they watch. I mean, if you're hating it all that much, why are you <em>writing</em> about it? Yeah… I think I'm going to be culling a lot of anime bloggers from my feed reader, because it seems like all some of them can do is bitch and moan about every single show they watch. I mean, if you're hating it all that much, why are you writing about it?

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By: Chikorita157 http://check.animeblogger.net/2010/12/04/separated-from-the-fandom/comment-page-1/#comment-118236 Chikorita157 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:40:36 +0000 http://check.animeblogger.net/?p=971#comment-118236 I have been angry at people who are anti-moe in this blogosphere. They are a minority since most bloggers don't really care. However, one of the commenters have bullied me over what I watched that it drove me to the edge. I IP banned him since enough is enough. Shortly after, I wrote a post defending moe anime and also Yumeka shortly after (feel free to read them... The opinions are about the same.). My opinions about the elitism and other things is in that editorial... End of the day, it's better just to ignore those haters. It's something that one shouldn't get worked up for. Sure their opinions are nasty, but reacting to it isn't good. I have been angry at people who are anti-moe in this blogosphere. They are a minority since most bloggers don't really care. However, one of the commenters have bullied me over what I watched that it drove me to the edge. I IP banned him since enough is enough. Shortly after, I wrote a post defending moe anime and also Yumeka shortly after (feel free to read them… The opinions are about the same.). My opinions about the elitism and other things is in that editorial…

End of the day, it's better just to ignore those haters. It's something that one shouldn't get worked up for. Sure their opinions are nasty, but reacting to it isn't good.

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